Interview by ATS April 2004
ATS: Your images seem to have a slightly disturbing
edge to them, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Could you tell me what I maybe talking about?
JS: I don't particularly like the
so-called "nice
shots". Most of the “nice shots” I see
are boring. They seem to rely a lot on cliché compositions
or are over obsessed with lighting and technique. The
subject is often kidnapped by the photographer’s
ego. At the same time I don't like extremes either; photographs
that merely sensationalize. Personally, I try to ride
the fine line between normal and disturbing. Sometimes
I end up making normal subjects look disturbing and disturbing
subjects look normal.
ATS: What does a portrait mean to you?
JS: To me, a portrait is kind of
like catching someone with their pants down. Not that
I'm some kind of "paparazzi" or
anything like that, but I really want to catch something
in my subject that isn't easily noticeable and I want
to catch it in a natural way. I think we all see these
things in everyday life with people that we know well.
AST: But many of your photographs are set up aren't
they?
JS: Yes most of them are. I hate “snapshots”.
I like control in my photography, but what I photograph
I have seen before with my own eyes, so in that way,
I am merely recreating what I've already seen.
ATS: How do your subjects react to how you photograph
them?
JS: Most are pleasantly surprised at seeing themselves
so differently from how they are normally. Many of them
know my work already. Last week I was shooting a yoga
teacher and he asked me before the shoot if he had to
be tied up to a chair or something like that. It was
funny but at the same time I felt he was serious.
ATS: Do you prefer location work or studio?
JS: Location, even though it is more
difficult to arrange sometimes. I prefer studio for
certain work, but mostly I enjoy discovering a location
for my subject. I also don’t like the location
to overpower my subject. Saying this, I have certain
favorite locations I often return to, like the bathtub.
Many of my photographs, especially of women are taken
in bathtubs. Bedrooms are also a favorite location.
ATS: What is it about the nude that attracts you again
and again?
JS: It is a very pure subject. I
feel that people look more interesting nude or seminude.
But they could also look equally amazing in great clothes.
I prefer to photograph the nude. Even when I do a commissioned
portrait: I’ll
shoot the portrait as required, but I will also try to
shoot something for myself. Most subjects are willing
to please.
ATS: Is there a particular type of woman that you like
to photograph?
JS: I like to photograph women who
have some experience of life. Usually they are in their
late twenties or older. The young women that I’ve
photograph in the past lack a certain depth that I
like to see in my work.
ATS: Have you ever had a hostile subject?
JS: Rarely. Although, I once had
a subject walk out on me; but that was because she
was trying to control the way I was working. Once I
drew the line, she bolted. That’s ok, I was paid for the job anyways and I
didn’t have to compromise my work.
ATS: Do you have to compromise your work often when
shooting for clients?
JS: Not as much as before. Now many of them know my
work and know what to expect, so they already have me
in mind. This is where having a style really helps with
clients; they know more or less what assignments to give
you.
ATS: You used to shoot a lot more fashion before, do
you still like shooting it?
JS: I started out shooting fashion
in 1991, but I only realized I prefered shooting portraits
afterwards. Now, I prefer portraits, but I also enjoy
shooting fashion; that is, if the assignment is right.
Fashion photography has become boring of late and has
been in a slump for a few of years now. I don’t
think it has a strong direction at this time. It seems
to be turning in on itself and getting caught in it’s
own clichés. The 80’s thing
is also getting a bit much. There seems to be a lack
of imagination and courage everywhere I look.
People are afraid of pissing other people off and the
result is boring unimaginative images that lack depth.
Stock photography is also killing the art of photography,
especially in North America. The fact that many design
companies would rather buy a ready made photo
off a stock CD, for quite a bit off money actually,
and use it on their designs instead of hiring a real
photographer to do it in a unique way, is telling of
what direction professional photography is heading.
It's a little depressing actually.
ATS: Do you have a favorite photographer?
JS: Helmut Newton, may he rest in
peace, has been an influence. He really got below the
surface of things. He had the courage to go into territories
that were taboo at the time. Mind you he only got that
way after he moved to Paris from London and started
working with French Vogue. He never got much respect
with London Vogue and it wasn’t until years later with French Vogue
that American Vogue had the courage to use him. By that
time he was already pushing fifty. Remember he was born
in 1920 and died at 83, so he had 30 good years of creativity.
There is not much of his published work pre 1970. He
pissed off many readers, but overall he had a positive
influence on the medium. He has been much imitated but
never surpassed. I admire that. The same is true with
Robert Mapplethorpe’s work. At the time he pissed
everyone off, but now he is seen as the forefather of
homoerotic photography. Living in a place like New York
and having supporters that believe in you is a big help
no doubt. With out places like New York and Paris and
now Tokyo, with Araki; erotic photography would not have
seen the light of day. Smaller cities just don’t
have the kind people with power and influence to make
that sort of thing happen. Speaking of Araki, I really
like his work. When I first saw his work I was in India
spending time at the OSHO ashram in Poona, a very sexy
ashram by the way. A German girlfriend of mind from Hamburg
mailed some magazine tear sheets of his work to me, thinking
that I would like it. To her surprise I didn’t.
I was like: this bondage thing is so boring, why does
everyone keep wanting to do it over and over again? A
couple of years later though when I was back in Toronto,
I was in a bookstore and picked up one of his books called
Tokyo Novella and I loved it. I understood him. The bondage
took on a different meaning for me. To me it represented
the repressed feminine in Japanese society. Somehow he
summed up the Japanese Shadow very clearly in that book:
but never having talked to him I don’t even know
if he is aware of it himself. His urban landscapes are
also beautiful and remind me very much of Atget’s
Paris landscapes at the turn of the century.
ATS: Do you get a lot of complains from feminists about
your work?
JS: My best friends are women. There
are times when one will say: oh come on Joseph, not
another nude woman shot, but for the most part they
are quite supportive. However, I am not famous or seen
widely in the media, so I don’t know what response
I would get if I were.
ATS: You’ve traveled extensively
through Asia and especially India. What draws you to
go there?
JS: The first time I went to India
was in 1989 and I was 29 years old. I stayed for a
year and fell in love with the place. Mind you I was
going through some kind of spiritual awakening at the
time and India was the perfect place to be for that.
I’ve returned many
times since then and every time it’s a different
experience. I also think that it is a different experience
for everyone that goes. I’ve met people there that
hated it and where dying to get out on the next flight.
It is not for everyone.
ATS: I’ve heard that India
is where you discovered photography. Is that true?
JS: Yes, that is right. Before India
I was a fine art painter and before that I was a chemical
engineer. I thought that I could paint when I got to
Asia but within a week I realized that I couldn’t and shipped all
my paints home. I was left with a point-and-shoot that
my father gave me and that was it. A month later I when
to Singapore and I bought a Nikon 801 system and 40 rolls
of Kodachrome, the rest is history. The interesting thing
is that in the 2 years I was abroad I didn’t develop
a single roll of film. I was in India and no one there
processed Kodachrome. It was only when I returned to
Toronto that had it all processed at once, so getting
all those slides back at once was like Christmas. After
seeing the film, I fell in love with the medium. That
was in 1991.
ATS: Where are you based now?
JS: Well, at present I am in Toronto, but I have plans
to move to Lisbon in the next year or so. Ideally I would
like to be based in Paris but that is too expensive for
me at this point in time. I have an EU passport and I
like the direction in which Europe is heading at this
time.
ATS: Is there a particular camera that you like to use
for your portraits?
JS: I started out using a Nikon 35mm
camera, but now I am all over the map. For a while
I was using a Rollieflex and I loved it. I still use
it now and then. I also use Hasselblad and a Plaubel
Makina, which is a rangefinder camera. Lately, I’ve gotten into 8x10 and have
shot a couple portraits with it. I love that too. It
takes a little getting used to but the results are outstanding.
I’m trying not to let the camera define my style
like so many other photographers.
ATS: What are you working on now?
JS: I am presently shooting a series of nudes in a white
bedroom with 8x10 color Polaroid. The results are quite
astounding. I love the look and feel of 8x10 Polaroid,
especially skin tones.
ATS is a Graphic Designer and Photoshop
artist who runs his own website alwaysthesun.com.
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